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berockly (TTG)
As useless as defining it is for you, i find use in it
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:20 AM
for what?
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:21 AM
I like thinking about things on my own time, and having words that are well organized helps with it
2:21 AM
When i dont its a mess!
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:21 AM
It will limit your practice to the definitions you give
2:21 AM
"Switching must be X Y and Z if not its not switching"
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:22 AM
Not necessarily, i can have a defined word and still give it leeway as a sort of spectrum
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:22 AM
Why do you ask definitions from others then?
2:22 AM
Definitions from others is stealing others peoples limit
2:22 AM
just define it on your own
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:23 AM
To have an easier time building my own Why do you learn things from other people?
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:23 AM
This is more like unlearning...
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:24 AM
I might end up with a grossly miss defined word in the way that tree defined unconscious as unintentionall
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:24 AM
No
2:24 AM
You will understand the experience and be able to put it on words if you need it
2:25 AM
And when you understand the experience, then you can steal others peoples words and use them to communicate similar meanings
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:25 AM
I understand the experience, i need words that i can use to describe it
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:25 AM
Describe it
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:25 AM
And to know what words to use. i need to know what the words are used for
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:25 AM
Do you understand switching?
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berockly (TTG)
And to know what words to use. i need to know what the words are used for
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:26 AM
You see how people use words all the time here
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:26 AM
Somewhat, not in words, but i understand it
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berockly (TTG)
Somewhat, not in words, but i understand it
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:26 AM
Can your tulpa get your body, that is
2:26 AM
then describe how it feels
2:26 AM
do it now
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:26 AM
Like normal
2:27 AM
No difference, except that x is now making decisions
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:27 AM
Well, for me switching feels like, i become the other one
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:27 AM
Sorta like wearing a comfortable mask, you dont feel it
2:27 AM
Right, i described it earlier
2:27 AM
I, as a poa, feel no difference
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berockly (TTG)
No difference, except that x is now making decisions
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:28 AM
Thats a much better definition than, the usual guide ones or the ones people use to explain it like: "You have to be separated from the body, you will be on the wonderland, the tulpa will take the front... You can do your thing in the wonderland..."
2:28 AM
Just say how it feels
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:28 AM
Wesley, the personality i associate as me usually, stops thinking, and lynn (as an example) starts
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:28 AM
and thats a good definition
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:29 AM
Besides that, sometimes (usually lynn or kylah) will mumble from my mouth
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:29 AM
Dont try to rationalize, confabulate build excesive narrative or steal other peoples rationalisation, confabulation or narrative
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:29 AM
And talk to themself
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:29 AM
Do you know how to merge?
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
Thats a much better definition than, the usual guide ones or the ones people use to explain it like: "You have to be separated from the body, you will be on the wonderland, the tulpa will take the front... You can do your thing in the wonderland..."
berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:29 AM
Yeah i find that weird
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
Do you know how to merge?
berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:30 AM
No, i find it useless right now at current individuality levels (ig, idk how to describe the concept im thinking of)
2:30 AM
We merge forms sometimes
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:30 AM
Dont try to describe if you didnt experience it
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:31 AM
But not identities
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:31 AM
Explain to me some other experiences youve had
2:31 AM
How do your tulpas feel?
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
Dont try to describe if you didnt experience it
berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:31 AM
I was trying to describe "individuality" (thats the closest word i can come up with)
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:32 AM
lets make you define what is a tulpa
2:32 AM
What do you feel when they talk to you
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sad 😠
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:32 AM
How is it
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
What do you feel when they talk to you
berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:32 AM
I feel thoughts
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:32 AM
or when you talk to them
2:32 AM
do you talk in "tulpish"?
2:33 AM
just describe how it feels
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:33 AM
Not usually, but i understand things in "tulpish"
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:33 AM
dont put narrative or confabulate, just describe (edited)
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:33 AM
Thats why its hard to translate concepts iNto words
2:33 AM
I understand something before being able to word it in an understandable way
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:33 AM
Yeah
2:33 AM
thats the feeling
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hehehe
2:33 AM
see
2:34 AM
you really understand it already
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/4/2023 2:34 AM
people are finally starting to catch up what i was talking about pushing logical mind aside because it's on the way
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:34 AM
Tulpish or
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:34 AM
Why would you want other people to introduce their biases into you
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/4/2023 2:34 AM
i remember when you told me it's a red flag to think that way destin!
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:34 AM
You seem to get it quite well yourself
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
i remember when you told me it's a red flag to think that way destin!
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:35 AM
I dont!
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:35 AM
To get what
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/4/2023 2:35 AM
you did!
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:35 AM
Was it destin?
2:35 AM
Or destin account
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:36 AM
I like words because i enjoy communicating my thought processes to people, but find myself unable to
2:36 AM
Thats why i like using other peoples word concepts
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
you did!
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:36 AM
Im sure i did in a much more decent way 😠 😝 I would never call you a redflag 🙂
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/4/2023 2:36 AM
anyway good to see people simplify finally
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:36 AM
I have no reason not to, and i modify them to fit my own
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berockly (TTG)
I like words because i enjoy communicating my thought processes to people, but find myself unable to
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:36 AM
You communicated pretty well to me
2:36 AM
And you didnt need me to give any definitions
2:37 AM
Or anyone else
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:37 AM
With words i already have well defined though
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/4/2023 2:37 AM
i don't think you need more than top 200 most used words to describe those experiences
2:38 AM
it's quite simple to describe
2:38 AM
if you talk to someone that already had experiences like that, it will be understandable
2:39 AM
the problem is if you talk to someone that hasn't experienced it.. then you need to "go down" to their level with explanations and need to relate to some similar experiences that they had and build up from there
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:39 AM
Anyways, having a defined definition of tulpa is important to me personally
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/4/2023 2:39 AM
why
2:39 AM
?
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:40 AM
Because im curious about how its different from other types of thoughtforms
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:40 AM
Why does that matter
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:40 AM
And i want to be able to separate them better
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/4/2023 2:40 AM
you label types of thoughtforms, they are not different, you make them
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/4/2023 2:40 AM
you know that whatever you define can become a thoughtform
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
Why does that matter
berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:40 AM
Because i want it to happen
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/4/2023 2:40 AM
it's not that you are describing anything, you are creating it
2:41 AM
so what do you want tulpas to be?
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:41 AM
Well, i suppose for one they need to be separate, separate being defined as being able to function without being controlled
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/4/2023 2:42 AM
the more words you use the more i want to question it!
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berockly (TTG) 3/4/2023 2:42 AM
Secondly, treating them as separate
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